DEATHWALKER'S GUIDE TO LIFE SEASON 4
EPISODE 2
Music to Live By
Sunset over Kahurangi © Kerry Sunderland 2026
March 25, 2026
EPISODE 2
Music to Live By
Deathwalker's Guide to Life host Kerry Sunderland speaks with deep listener Anna Groves.
'There is no sense in grief. There is no timing. There is no "one-shot wonder". There's no, "this is the way it happens for everybody". It's so fluid.'
- Anna Groves
- Anna Groves
KŌRERO / CONVERSATION
Meet Anna Groves
Above: Anna Groves
In this episode, Deathwalker's Guide to Life host Kerry Sunderland speaks with Kāpiti-based Anna Groves during her recent visit to Whakatū Nelson.
Anna is a certified trainer with the Centre for Nonviolent Communication, co-creator (with Katie Lane) of Inner Nature Cards, and is currently undertaking a Masters of Counselling at Waikato University, specialising in narrative therapy.
Anna is also a singer-songwriter who, with her husband Rob ten Broeke, wrote 'Stumble', the Deathwalker's Guide to Life theme song.
Deep listening underlies all of Anna's work. Perceptive, pragmatic and candid, she offers timely insights and facilitate a shared understanding when others may be inclined to withdraw. Anna is well equipped to support connection when conflict is particularly difficult or challenging and can offer skills to clarify situations and support people to make sustainable changes. Her ability to empathise underlies a potent emotional intelligence that enables Anna to connect with people from all walks of life.
One of the songs Anna would like played at her funeral is the orchestral arrangement of 'Both Sides Now' by Joni Mitchell (which you can listen to on the Deathwalker's Guide to Life Spotify playlist).
Anna is a certified trainer with the Centre for Nonviolent Communication, co-creator (with Katie Lane) of Inner Nature Cards, and is currently undertaking a Masters of Counselling at Waikato University, specialising in narrative therapy.
Anna is also a singer-songwriter who, with her husband Rob ten Broeke, wrote 'Stumble', the Deathwalker's Guide to Life theme song.
Deep listening underlies all of Anna's work. Perceptive, pragmatic and candid, she offers timely insights and facilitate a shared understanding when others may be inclined to withdraw. Anna is well equipped to support connection when conflict is particularly difficult or challenging and can offer skills to clarify situations and support people to make sustainable changes. Her ability to empathise underlies a potent emotional intelligence that enables Anna to connect with people from all walks of life.
One of the songs Anna would like played at her funeral is the orchestral arrangement of 'Both Sides Now' by Joni Mitchell (which you can listen to on the Deathwalker's Guide to Life Spotify playlist).
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INNER NATURE CARDS
Inner Nature Cards are a powerful yet simple tool to help you slow down, listen inward, and connect with your own body’s wisdom.
Organised into three distinct categories — Sensations, Feelings, and Needs — the deck offers a language for exploring the nuanced layers of inner experience. With 100 thoughtfully curated words, each card invites you to sense, name, and clarify what’s present within you.
A practice guide is included with simple suggestions for solo, partner, and group explorations.
Organised into three distinct categories — Sensations, Feelings, and Needs — the deck offers a language for exploring the nuanced layers of inner experience. With 100 thoughtfully curated words, each card invites you to sense, name, and clarify what’s present within you.
A practice guide is included with simple suggestions for solo, partner, and group explorations.
'Like the natural world, our inner experience — our inner nature — is always shifting in response to our relationships, events, and environments. Whether you use the cards for a daily check-in, a guided exercise, or spontaneous reflection, each encounter reveals something new.'
- Anna Groves & Katie Lane
- Anna Groves & Katie Lane
Catch up on previous episodes
Deathwalker's Guide to Life kicked off in 2021. Catch up by browsing past episodes, which you can listen to on all the major podcast platforms.